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What an assent depends on
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What an assent depends on
Foundations · shurūṭ al-taṣdīq · pp. 44–45
شُرُوطُ التَّصْدِيقِ
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Persian text after the print of Kanpur 1279/1862–63 · translation by The Mantiqi, draft
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al-Kubrā الكُبْرَى
al-Sayyid al-Sharīf al-Jurjānī (d. 816/1413)
- Text
- Persian, transcribed by The Mantiqi from the lithograph, without its marginal glosses: Majmūʿa-yi manṭiq, Maṭbaʿ-i Alṭāfī, Kanpur 1279/1862–63, pp. 1–42 View the scan
- Lessons follow
- al-Manṭiq al-manhajī li-l-mubtadiʾīn: al-Ṣughrā wa-l-Awsaṭ wa-l-Kubrā, Arabic version and arrangement by Muḥammad Anwar al-Badakhshānī (Jāmiʿat al-ʿUlūm al-Islāmiyya, ʿAllāma Banūrī Town), Islam Insight, Karachi 1420/1999, pp. 42–86. The lessons are The Mantiqi's own explanations in the order of this edition; its text is under copyright and is not reproduced.
- Translation
- The Mantiqi's own, into English and into vocalised Arabic; a draft. The Arabic is translated from the Persian, not taken from a printed Arabic version.
- Review
- Draft, awaiting review by Ustadh Muhammad Yusuf.
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Persian original, Majmūʿa-yi manṭiq, Kanpur 1279/1862–63
و چون تصدیق ادراک نسبت چیزی است بچیزی بایجاب یا بسلب، ناچار است او را از سه تصور: یکی تصور منسوب الیه که آن را محکوم علیه خوانند، دوم تصور منسوب که آن را محکوم به خوانند، سوم تصور نسبت میان این که آن را نسبت حکمیه خوانند. مثلاً در تصدیق بآنکه زید قائم است ناچار باشد از تصور زید که محکوم علیه است و از تصور قائم که محکوم به است و از تصور نسبت میان زید و قائم که نسبت حکمیه است، تا بعد از آن ادراک آن نسبت بر وجه ایجاب یا سلب حاصل شود. پس تصدیق موقوف باشد بر تصور محکوم علیه و تصور محکوم به و تصور نسبت حکمیه، لیکن هیچکدام ازین تصورات ثلثه نزد اهل تحقیق جزو تصدیق نیست.
Since assent is the perception of the relation of one thing to another, affirmatively or negatively, it cannot do without three conceptions: first, the conception of what something is related to, which is called the subject judged; second, the conception of what is related, which is called the predicate judged; third, the conception of the relation between them, which is called the judgemental relation. For instance, in assenting that Zayd is standing, one cannot do without the conception of Zayd, who is the subject judged, the conception of standing, which is the predicate judged, and the conception of the relation between Zayd and standing, which is the judgemental relation, so that after that the perception of that relation, affirmatively or negatively, may come about. So assent depends on the conception of the subject, the conception of the predicate and the conception of the judgemental relation; but according to the careful scholars none of these three conceptions is a part of the assent.
Arabic translation
وَلَمَّا كَانَ التَّصْدِيقُ إِدْرَاكَ نِسْبَةِ شَيْءٍ إِلَى شَيْءٍ إِيجَابًا أَوْ سَلْبًا، لَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ بُدٌّ مِنْ تَصَوُّرَاتٍ ثَلَاثَةٍ: أَحَدُهَا تَصَوُّرُ الْمَنْسُوبِ إِلَيْهِ، وَيُسَمَّى الْمَحْكُومَ عَلَيْهِ، وَالثَّانِي تَصَوُّرُ الْمَنْسُوبِ، وَيُسَمَّى الْمَحْكُومَ بِهِ، وَالثَّالِثُ تَصَوُّرُ النِّسْبَةِ بَيْنَهُمَا، وَتُسَمَّى النِّسْبَةَ الْحُكْمِيَّةَ. فَفِي التَّصْدِيقِ بِأَنَّ زَيْدًا قَائِمٌ لَا بُدَّ مِنْ تَصَوُّرِ زَيْدٍ وَهُوَ الْمَحْكُومُ عَلَيْهِ، وَمِنْ تَصَوُّرِ الْقَائِمِ وَهُوَ الْمَحْكُومُ بِهِ، وَمِنْ تَصَوُّرِ النِّسْبَةِ بَيْنَ زَيْدٍ وَالْقَائِمِ وَهِيَ النِّسْبَةُ الْحُكْمِيَّةُ، حَتَّى يَحْصُلَ بَعْدَ ذٰلِكَ إِدْرَاكُ تِلْكَ النِّسْبَةِ عَلَى وَجْهِ الْإِيجَابِ أَوِ السَّلْبِ. فَالتَّصْدِيقُ مَوْقُوفٌ عَلَى تَصَوُّرِ الْمَحْكُومِ عَلَيْهِ وَتَصَوُّرِ الْمَحْكُومِ بِهِ وَتَصَوُّرِ النِّسْبَةِ الْحُكْمِيَّةِ، وَلٰكِنْ لَيْسَ شَيْءٌ مِنْ هٰذِهِ التَّصَوُّرَاتِ الثَّلَاثَةِ جُزْءًا مِنَ التَّصْدِيقِ عِنْدَ الْمُحَقِّقِينَ.
Google Translate ↗pp. 4–5
The lesson
Because is the perception of a relation of one thing to another, it needs three before it. The conception of what something is related to, the of the judgement (maḥkūm ʿalayh); the conception of what is related, the of the judgement (maḥkūm bih); and the conception of the relation between them, called the judgemental relation (al-nisba al-ḥukmiyya), the relation on which the judgement rests.
In assenting that Zayd is standing, you must Zayd, who is judged; standing, which is judged of him; and the relation between Zayd and standing. These three are needed so that the relation can then be perceived as holding or not holding, and that perception is the , the judgement, not a further conception — otherwise a conception would depend on itself.
According to the careful scholars (al-muḥaqqiqūn) none of these three is a part of the ; each is a condition of it. The assent is the single act of judging, which can happen only once its three conditions are in place.
Terms
- المَحْكُومُ عَلَيْهِ al-maḥkūm ʿalayh
- what is judged: the subject of the judgement
- المَحْكُومُ بِهِ al-maḥkūm bih
- what is judged of it: the predicate
- النِّسْبَةُ الحُكْمِيَّةُ al-nisba al-ḥukmiyya
- the judgemental relation between them
- الشَّرْطُ al-sharṭ
- condition: needed for something, but not part of it
- المُحَقِّقُونَ al-muḥaqqiqūn
- the careful scholars, the verifiers
Examples
زَيْدٌ قائِمٌ
to assent to it: conceive Zayd, standing, and the relation between them
Test jezelf
3 questions on this lesson. With 6 out of 10 or more (two stars) the next lesson opens.
Vraag 1
Which is NOT one of the three conceptions an assent depends on?
An assent needs the , the predicate and the judgemental relation; nothing more.
Vraag 2
According to the careful scholars, the three conceptions are…
They come before the assent as its conditions; the assent itself is the act of judging.
Vraag 3
In assenting that “Zayd is standing”, “standing” is…
Standing is what is judged of Zayd: the maḥkūm bih.
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